Comments on: HELM Audit http://www.justice.net.nz/justwiki/conducted-an-audit/ Standing Just Where We Are Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:22:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Emma Kuperus http://www.justice.net.nz/justwiki/conducted-an-audit/comment-page-1/#comment-10012 Emma Kuperus Tue, 04 Mar 2008 00:20:57 +0000 http://justice.anglican.org.nz/justblogs/helm/conducted-an-audit/#comment-10012 Trying to plan an audit for our church. Have you got a copy of the questions you used / issues you looked at? Cheers, Emma. Trying to plan an audit for our church. Have you got a copy of the questions you used / issues you looked at?

Cheers,
Emma.

]]> By: Ant http://www.justice.net.nz/justwiki/conducted-an-audit/comment-page-1/#comment-132 Ant Wed, 13 Jun 2007 01:00:18 +0000 http://justice.anglican.org.nz/justblogs/helm/conducted-an-audit/#comment-132 Actually, Grimace, I don't think that elephant is going unmentioned. But, of course, it isn't getting engaged with at a policy nor business level, as a general rule. Yet climate change has the power to provoke some change here...and I think that it will do just that as communities do more local organising and emphasise the need to live more simply. I also think (without wanting to split hairs) we need to be clear what we are talking about - most implementations of capitalism in the world are highly regulated, and not as free as others would like. A better understanting of the theology of the principalities and powers by the church would equip us well to engage these times. I think resistance, as Stringfellow once said, is the only way to live humanly. And resistance means affirming the 'good life' and nurturing it in resistance to the onslaught of the power of death, and not just pointing our finger at death's icy grip upon our lives and saying 'see, look how bad it is'. Actually, Grimace, I don’t think that elephant is going unmentioned. But, of course, it isn’t getting engaged with at a policy nor business level, as a general rule.

Yet climate change has the power to provoke some change here…and I think that it will do just that as communities do more local organising and emphasise the need to live more simply.

I also think (without wanting to split hairs) we need to be clear what we are talking about – most implementations of capitalism in the world are highly regulated, and not as free as others would like. A better understanting of the theology of the principalities and powers by the church would equip us well to engage these times.

I think resistance, as Stringfellow once said, is the only way to live humanly. And resistance means affirming the ‘good life’ and nurturing it in resistance to the onslaught of the power of death, and not just pointing our finger at death’s icy grip upon our lives and saying ‘see, look how bad it is’.

]]> By: UVGrimace http://www.justice.net.nz/justwiki/conducted-an-audit/comment-page-1/#comment-129 UVGrimace Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:10:36 +0000 http://justice.anglican.org.nz/justblogs/helm/conducted-an-audit/#comment-129 Have you got the research plan, and the audit tool/ methodology, and is it available to others? This would be very interesting to start exploring in our church. I can see how very quickly we might use up our good will quotient in the process, but I can live with that. Have you ever noticed how no-one wants to mention the elephant in the room? The elephant is free market capitalism, and people look like they've swallowed a lemon whenever I suggest that we are reaping the environmental rewards of worshipping at the wrong altar. Jesus did comment upon entering Jerusalem that should His people be silent, the very rocks would cry out, and methinks that is exactly what is happening. Have you got the research plan, and the audit tool/ methodology, and is it available to others? This would be very interesting to start exploring in our church.

I can see how very quickly we might use up our good will quotient in the process, but I can live with that.

Have you ever noticed how no-one wants to mention the elephant in the room? The elephant is free market capitalism, and people look like they’ve swallowed a lemon whenever I suggest that we are reaping the environmental rewards of worshipping at the wrong altar.

Jesus did comment upon entering Jerusalem that should His people be silent, the very rocks would cry out, and methinks that is exactly what is happening.

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